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	<title>Comments on: LGF Vs. Daily Kos</title>
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		<title>By: The Sphinx</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/lgf-vs-daily-kos/#comment-4613</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sphinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I know I’m taking a shot at Charles and LGF with this post, so I’d just like to say that I acknowledge and respect the fact that the site tolerates dissenting voices such as my own.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I think you can only consider yourself lucky to have been tolerated so far. Every other voice of dissent I&#039;ve witnessed has been brutally cracked down on, either by Charles who actively deletes accounts of anyone who clearly disagrees with him, or in the comment sections with tons of name-calling, flaming, and ad-hominem arguments, that you yourself have witnessed.

If I could post a few remarks there I&#039;d get banned in less than an hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I know I’m taking a shot at Charles and LGF with this post, so I’d just like to say that I acknowledge and respect the fact that the site tolerates dissenting voices such as my own.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I think you can only consider yourself lucky to have been tolerated so far. Every other voice of dissent I&#8217;ve witnessed has been brutally cracked down on, either by Charles who actively deletes accounts of anyone who clearly disagrees with him, or in the comment sections with tons of name-calling, flaming, and ad-hominem arguments, that you yourself have witnessed.</p>
<p>If I could post a few remarks there I&#8217;d get banned in less than an hour.</p>
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		<title>By: amused</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/lgf-vs-daily-kos/#comment-4222</link>
		<dc:creator>amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks,

Even some of the LGF commenters noted that DK is trying to go mainstream, so toning it down is probably in the future anyway. I think Hillary&#039;s media manager is on O&#039;Reilly tonight to address her presence at YK. I hope s/he points out Charles&#039; dishonesty in presenting certain posts as &#039;representing&#039; DK. Not holding my breath either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Even some of the LGF commenters noted that DK is trying to go mainstream, so toning it down is probably in the future anyway. I think Hillary&#8217;s media manager is on O&#8217;Reilly tonight to address her presence at YK. I hope s/he points out Charles&#8217; dishonesty in presenting certain posts as &#8216;representing&#8217; DK. Not holding my breath either.</p>
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		<title>By: ChenZhen</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/lgf-vs-daily-kos/#comment-4219</link>
		<dc:creator>ChenZhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno about that.  This has been going on for as long as I&#039;ve been on LGF.  In some level it seems kinda silly and pointless, while on another it is dishonest and serves to further divide the nation.  This isn&#039;t merely a shot at Kos, it is aimed at the &quot;left&quot; in general.  Charles likes to use the terminology &quot;the left&#039;s premier website&quot; (or some variation) to describe Kos and I think these little cherry-picks are intended to paint with a broader brush.  I mean, just look at the title &quot;Lefties Dropping the Fiction...&quot;

I think you may find my profile on &lt;a href=&quot;http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/04/16/flame-warrior-profile-killgore-trout/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Killgore&lt;/a&gt; interesting.  The LGF vs. Kos thing is nothing new, and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s really done anything to &quot;tone down&quot; Kos.  Kos is just an easy punching bag for them to use to validate their opinions (the &quot;left&quot; hates  the troops, hates America, is anti-Semitic, whatver ) because of the diverse nature of it&#039;s participants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno about that.  This has been going on for as long as I&#8217;ve been on LGF.  In some level it seems kinda silly and pointless, while on another it is dishonest and serves to further divide the nation.  This isn&#8217;t merely a shot at Kos, it is aimed at the &#8220;left&#8221; in general.  Charles likes to use the terminology &#8220;the left&#8217;s premier website&#8221; (or some variation) to describe Kos and I think these little cherry-picks are intended to paint with a broader brush.  I mean, just look at the title &#8220;Lefties Dropping the Fiction&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you may find my profile on <a href="http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/04/16/flame-warrior-profile-killgore-trout/" rel="nofollow">Killgore</a> interesting.  The LGF vs. Kos thing is nothing new, and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s really done anything to &#8220;tone down&#8221; Kos.  Kos is just an easy punching bag for them to use to validate their opinions (the &#8220;left&#8221; hates  the troops, hates America, is anti-Semitic, whatver ) because of the diverse nature of it&#8217;s participants.</p>
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		<title>By: amused</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/lgf-vs-daily-kos/#comment-4217</link>
		<dc:creator>amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chen,

Glad to see you follow up on that kerfuffle. I only jumped in because Charles has made it a habit of seeking out obnoxious comments and diares at DailyKos, and then presenting them in a way that makes it seem like Markos wrote/supports them. 

Thinking about it today though, it occurs to me that LGF may be doing Kos a huge favor by pointing those out and making it easier for Kos to remove/moderate them. Sorta the same logic that digital virus-writers use to justify their destructiveness - it ends up making the web safer in the end because it generates anti-virus programs. And it seems to be working since Kos is making it clear that he wants the invective toned down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chen,</p>
<p>Glad to see you follow up on that kerfuffle. I only jumped in because Charles has made it a habit of seeking out obnoxious comments and diares at DailyKos, and then presenting them in a way that makes it seem like Markos wrote/supports them. </p>
<p>Thinking about it today though, it occurs to me that LGF may be doing Kos a huge favor by pointing those out and making it easier for Kos to remove/moderate them. Sorta the same logic that digital virus-writers use to justify their destructiveness &#8211; it ends up making the web safer in the end because it generates anti-virus programs. And it seems to be working since Kos is making it clear that he wants the invective toned down.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/lgf-vs-daily-kos/#comment-4204</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey mate,

I just had one of my first visits to LGF. The whole Daily Kos thing was linked to from Balloon Juice, one of my favourite moderate sites.

As an Australian, I&#039;m not really obliged to support your troops. When looking through the vast, vast LGF comment thread, though, yours were the only comments that somewhat resembled my own opinion.

You are a braver man than I, sir. You provide a valuable service to all with your objections, no matter how lost they may get within the echo chamber.

Keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey mate,</p>
<p>I just had one of my first visits to LGF. The whole Daily Kos thing was linked to from Balloon Juice, one of my favourite moderate sites.</p>
<p>As an Australian, I&#8217;m not really obliged to support your troops. When looking through the vast, vast LGF comment thread, though, yours were the only comments that somewhat resembled my own opinion.</p>
<p>You are a braver man than I, sir. You provide a valuable service to all with your objections, no matter how lost they may get within the echo chamber.</p>
<p>Keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Psycheout</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/lgf-vs-daily-kos/#comment-4172</link>
		<dc:creator>Psycheout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blogs 4 Brownback is pretty moderate.

Consider putting us in your blog roll and voting for us in the blogger&#039;s choice awards.

Just kidding.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogs 4 Brownback is pretty moderate.</p>
<p>Consider putting us in your blog roll and voting for us in the blogger&#8217;s choice awards.</p>
<p>Just kidding.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: phil_in_ny</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/lgf-vs-daily-kos/#comment-4147</link>
		<dc:creator>phil_in_ny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Although I do have to say I&#039;ve found some trouble locating moderate blogs to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Although I do have to say I&#8217;ve found some trouble locating moderate blogs to read.</p>
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