Comments on: Adventures In Manufactured Controversies http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/ Official Blog of the Infamous Netizen ChenZhen Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:33:48 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: tzopilotl http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-18273 tzopilotl Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:32:20 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-18273 ...why not invite him along to make a big withdrawl from your neighborhood bank, you might be the talent scout who discovers the new willy sutton? don't pass up the chance. friends are hard to find these days, or do you already know this guy? it might be his first time. in that case bet on the finger and hand your money over anyway, unless it's a shirt that's been to the laundry too many times. if it's a girl, she has a gun, and a dog too. think quick, yupper. …why not invite him along to make a big withdrawl from your neighborhood bank, you might
be the talent scout who discovers the new willy
sutton? don’t pass up the chance. friends are hard to find these days, or do you already know this guy? it might be his first time. in that
case bet on the finger and hand your money over
anyway, unless it’s a shirt that’s been to the laundry too many times. if it’s a girl, she has
a gun, and a dog too. think quick, yupper.

]]> By: liberrocky http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7975 liberrocky Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:24:45 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7975 Yupper. It is tough though. If someone is mugging you with their finger in their pocket and you can't tell if it is really a gun or not, and you know they have a criminal record. Do you assume they have a gun? Yupper. It is tough though. If someone is mugging you with their finger in their pocket and you can’t tell if it is really a gun or not, and you know they have a criminal record. Do you assume they have a gun?

]]> By: ChenZhen http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7943 ChenZhen Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:47:18 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7943 It is an interesting story about Saddam that you linked to, however. If true, it verifies what many have suspected for some time, in that he wanted people to <em>believe</em> that he had WMD, perhaps right up until 1441. It would also suggest that the sanctions and inpections were, in fact, keeping him from actually aquiring them. There are a lot of ways to spin this, of course. It is an interesting story about Saddam that you linked to, however. If true, it verifies what many have suspected for some time, in that he wanted people to believe that he had WMD, perhaps right up until 1441. It would also suggest that the sanctions and inpections were, in fact, keeping him from actually aquiring them.

There are a lot of ways to spin this, of course.

]]> By: liberrocky http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7940 liberrocky Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:42:51 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7940 I know what it was in response to, but the above quote included a link to the Gonzales fracas, so it wasn’t quite the meme I was pushing. <i> In regards to Iraq, I’ve never really implied on this blog that Bush “lied” about Saddam’s supposed WMD capability or aspirations. My accusations of dishonesty are much broader and more fundamental. Bush’s lie on Iraq was stating “hopefully no military action”, when clearly he had no other intention. See this thread and its comments section for a good roundup of my position on this.</i> OK, coolie with me. Thanks for clarifying. I know what it was in response to, but the above quote included a link to the Gonzales fracas, so it wasn’t quite the meme I was pushing.

In regards to Iraq, I’ve never really implied on this blog that Bush “lied” about Saddam’s supposed WMD capability or aspirations. My accusations of dishonesty are much broader and more fundamental. Bush’s lie on Iraq was stating “hopefully no military action”, when clearly he had no other intention. See this thread and its comments section for a good roundup of my position on this.
OK, coolie with me. Thanks for clarifying.

]]> By: ChenZhen http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7935 ChenZhen Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:40:59 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7935 I know what it was in response to, but the above quote included a link to the Gonzales fracas, so it wasn't quite the meme I was pushing. In regards to Iraq, I've never really implied on this blog that Bush "lied" about Saddam's supposed WMD capability or aspirations. My accusations of dishonesty are much broader and more fundamental. Bush's lie on Iraq was stating "hopefully no military action", when clearly he had no other intention. See <a href="http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/60-minutes-exposes-curveball/" rel="nofollow">this thread</a> and its comments section for a good roundup of my position on this. I know what it was in response to, but the above quote included a link to the Gonzales fracas, so it wasn’t quite the meme I was pushing.

In regards to Iraq, I’ve never really implied on this blog that Bush “lied” about Saddam’s supposed WMD capability or aspirations. My accusations of dishonesty are much broader and more fundamental. Bush’s lie on Iraq was stating “hopefully no military action”, when clearly he had no other intention. See this thread and its comments section for a good roundup of my position on this.

]]> By: Liberrocky http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7932 Liberrocky Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:40:43 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7932 <i>What the heck does that story about Saddam have to do with this?</i> That was in response to this: <i>Or, how about a thread on the story that we seem to have an administration that can’t tell the truth? </i> The saddam article puts a timely stake in the "bush lied people died" meme that you were pushing in the above quote. What the heck does that story about Saddam have to do with this?

That was in response to this:
Or, how about a thread on the story that we seem to have an administration that can’t tell the truth?
The saddam article puts a timely stake in the “bush lied people died” meme that you were pushing in the above quote.

]]> By: ChenZhen http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7875 ChenZhen Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:39:10 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7875 What the heck does that story about Saddam have to do with this? What the heck does that story about Saddam have to do with this?

]]> By: liberrocky http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7874 liberrocky Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:22:42 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-7874 <i>Update: Uh Oh….ad hominem time…Scott Thomas’ stories can’t be true because…because…he’s married to a TNR staffer! Let me know when you find out if the stories are true or not, OK guys? Get on a plane, go to Iraq, and verify them.</i> Lucky for you McDonald's just began serving a chipotle crow wrap, cause should be eating a lot of it. I mean what is it like to be so smug and then be so wrong? <i>Or, how about a thread on the story that we seem to have an administration that can’t tell the truth? </i> Whoops wrong <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2007/11/12/nbc-reports-saddam-hussein-planned-re-start-nuclear-program" rel="nofollow"> again... </a> Maybe there is a twelve step program to help you break your addiction to being wrong. Liberrocky Update: Uh Oh….ad hominem time…Scott Thomas’ stories can’t be true because…because…he’s married to a TNR staffer!

Let me know when you find out if the stories are true or not, OK guys? Get on a plane, go to Iraq, and verify them.
Lucky for you McDonald’s just began serving a chipotle crow wrap, cause should be eating a lot of it.

I mean what is it like to be so smug and then be so wrong?

Or, how about a thread on the story that we seem to
have an administration that can’t tell the truth?

Whoops wrong again…

Maybe there is a twelve step program to help you break your addiction to being wrong.

Liberrocky

]]> By: ChenZhen http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-4329 ChenZhen Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:14:31 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-4329 More like the "I support the troops until they tell me something I don't want to hear" thread. More like the “I support the troops until they tell me something I don’t want to hear” thread.

]]> By: DesertSage http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-4328 DesertSage Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:56:29 +0000 http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/adventures-in-manufactured-controversies/#comment-4328 Is this the Elliot Spitzer thread? Is this the Elliot Spitzer thread?

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