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		<title>By: Choice Snippets Of The Day &#171; ChenZhen&#8217;s Chamber</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tex Taylor</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/is-conserving-gas-an-act-of-patriotism/#comment-13026</link>
		<dc:creator>Tex Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far be it from me to actually give the General a compliment.  Yes, consider yourself a responsible citizen, a good citizen.  And I do think that is patriotic.

I think everybody should be conserving whether you can afford $5.00 gas or not.  Kind of along the lines of &lt;i&gt;just because you can do something, doesn&#039;t necessarily mean you should do something...&lt;/i&gt;  Like I said, in their own unique way, the rich gas guzzlers are aiding some of our biggest enemies.

{Channeling Al Gore; possibly the world&#039;s biggest energy hypocrite}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far be it from me to actually give the General a compliment.  Yes, consider yourself a responsible citizen, a good citizen.  And I do think that is patriotic.</p>
<p>I think everybody should be conserving whether you can afford $5.00 gas or not.  Kind of along the lines of <i>just because you can do something, doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean you should do something&#8230;</i>  Like I said, in their own unique way, the rich gas guzzlers are aiding some of our biggest enemies.</p>
<p>{Channeling Al Gore; possibly the world&#8217;s biggest energy hypocrite}</p>
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		<title>By: dead rabbit</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/is-conserving-gas-an-act-of-patriotism/#comment-13010</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he&#039;s also not a kook....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he&#8217;s also not a kook&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dead rabbit</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The dead rabbit really isn&#039;t the classic internet cook he appears to be. He just likes going on rants when drinking Belgian ales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dead rabbit really isn&#8217;t the classic internet cook he appears to be. He just likes going on rants when drinking Belgian ales.</p>
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		<title>By: ChenZhen</title>
		<link>http://chenzhen.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/is-conserving-gas-an-act-of-patriotism/#comment-13007</link>
		<dc:creator>ChenZhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew-

Thanks for stopping by, but I don&#039;t really need to change anything to boycott Exxon, since all the gas for my cars is purchased at Super America, which is a subsidiary of Marathon Oil.  In other words, I guess I&#039;m already boycotting them.

Interesting idea though.

abaris-

OK I suppose that I see your point.  Conserving gas in and of itself is more about self preservation than anything else.  Perhaps then, it&#039;s those who do it &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; spread the word.  To that end, I&#039;ve got the Chamber and the ability to call in to radio shows (yay!).  Maybe I could do more (I&#039;ve got some rather outside-the-box ideas on this).  But if that makes me patriotic, the guy who deserves the friggin Presidential Medal of Freedom would be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/01/king_of_the_hypermilers.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wayne Gerdes&lt;/a&gt;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew-</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by, but I don&#8217;t really need to change anything to boycott Exxon, since all the gas for my cars is purchased at Super America, which is a subsidiary of Marathon Oil.  In other words, I guess I&#8217;m already boycotting them.</p>
<p>Interesting idea though.</p>
<p>abaris-</p>
<p>OK I suppose that I see your point.  Conserving gas in and of itself is more about self preservation than anything else.  Perhaps then, it&#8217;s those who do it <i>and</i> spread the word.  To that end, I&#8217;ve got the Chamber and the ability to call in to radio shows (yay!).  Maybe I could do more (I&#8217;ve got some rather outside-the-box ideas on this).  But if that makes me patriotic, the guy who deserves the friggin Presidential Medal of Freedom would be <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/01/king_of_the_hypermilers.html" rel="nofollow">Wayne Gerdes</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: dead rabbit</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as for the “virtual market”, I’m not sure its so virtual. I think it’s actually somewhat rational. There is a oil shortage. And the Middle East is as unstable as ever. So, it makes sense for oil to sky rocket. And as for the “select few”, there is nothing stopping you or me from investing in oil. Hell, quit the IRA fund and invest in black gold!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as for the “virtual market”, I’m not sure its so virtual. I think it’s actually somewhat rational. There is a oil shortage. And the Middle East is as unstable as ever. So, it makes sense for oil to sky rocket. And as for the “select few”, there is nothing stopping you or me from investing in oil. Hell, quit the IRA fund and invest in black gold!</p>
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		<title>By: dead rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>dead rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“It should be the duty and the interest of the governments to protect their citizens from the worst implications.”

There is another way our government could protect us. Take Iraqi oil. Take Iranian oil.  If we really wanted to throw our military weight around God help those oil rich barbarians. 

America is a unique empire. For the first time in history, there is a shortage on a desperately needed resource, and the world’s sole super power isn’t waging a war of aggression to fleece weaker states.  

Start with the Sumerians, and end with the British Empire. Not one empire has ever been as benevolent as America.

Some will say that is so because we are a democracy. But that didn’t stop the Athenians from having a direct democracy at home and exporting tyranny abroad. The same can be said of the French and the British.

Other’s will claim we don’t wage wars of acquisition because of Manifest Destiny. That our national boundaries were so large, and its native people so easy to conquer that we never had a need to expand. But look at Russian history. They expanded the same way under the same circumstances and still felt the need to play the “Great Game”. The Russians have expanded into the West and the South. The Slavs and the Turks.

I guess a maybe a weak spot in my argument would be the Mexican-American war. However, even the Texans voted to join the Union. 

Uh…the dead rabbit needs to get a life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“It should be the duty and the interest of the governments to protect their citizens from the worst implications.”</p>
<p>There is another way our government could protect us. Take Iraqi oil. Take Iranian oil.  If we really wanted to throw our military weight around God help those oil rich barbarians. </p>
<p>America is a unique empire. For the first time in history, there is a shortage on a desperately needed resource, and the world’s sole super power isn’t waging a war of aggression to fleece weaker states.  </p>
<p>Start with the Sumerians, and end with the British Empire. Not one empire has ever been as benevolent as America.</p>
<p>Some will say that is so because we are a democracy. But that didn’t stop the Athenians from having a direct democracy at home and exporting tyranny abroad. The same can be said of the French and the British.</p>
<p>Other’s will claim we don’t wage wars of acquisition because of Manifest Destiny. That our national boundaries were so large, and its native people so easy to conquer that we never had a need to expand. But look at Russian history. They expanded the same way under the same circumstances and still felt the need to play the “Great Game”. The Russians have expanded into the West and the South. The Slavs and the Turks.</p>
<p>I guess a maybe a weak spot in my argument would be the Mexican-American war. However, even the Texans voted to join the Union. </p>
<p>Uh…the dead rabbit needs to get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: abaris</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conserving gas is more or less an act of self preservation. And the current development will lead to a world wide crisis within the next few years. The next prices to rise are those for electricity and natural gas, cause these are closely linked to the world wide oil prices. Also, food prices are on a global rise. And may the gods help us, if someone&#039;s stupid enough to attack Iran.

Come winter, that development becomes life threatening for the poorer part of the populace of the Western hemisphere and the general population of the second and third world. We&#039;re steering head over heels into a world wide crisis, only compareable to the situation in the 30ies. The business cycle will suffer accordingly - less comsumer power means less business for the industry and rising unemployment. Rising prices mean higher inflation rates in most of the Western countries.

And it&#039;s a man made situation. It&#039;s partly because of the ongoing war in Iraq, partly because of the simmering Iran crisis and largely because of the major oil companies syndicating instead of competing and because of stockjobbing.

No, in my eyes it&#039;s not an act of patriotism to conserve gas. It should be the duty and the interest of the governments to protect their citizens from the worst implications. It should be, because what we&#039;re witnessing right now is a perversion of the free market. A virtual market making money out of everybodies pockets without the least competition and to the benefit of only a few chosen ones. It should be in the interest of the government because a world wide crisis will lead to unrest and wars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conserving gas is more or less an act of self preservation. And the current development will lead to a world wide crisis within the next few years. The next prices to rise are those for electricity and natural gas, cause these are closely linked to the world wide oil prices. Also, food prices are on a global rise. And may the gods help us, if someone&#8217;s stupid enough to attack Iran.</p>
<p>Come winter, that development becomes life threatening for the poorer part of the populace of the Western hemisphere and the general population of the second and third world. We&#8217;re steering head over heels into a world wide crisis, only compareable to the situation in the 30ies. The business cycle will suffer accordingly &#8211; less comsumer power means less business for the industry and rising unemployment. Rising prices mean higher inflation rates in most of the Western countries.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s a man made situation. It&#8217;s partly because of the ongoing war in Iraq, partly because of the simmering Iran crisis and largely because of the major oil companies syndicating instead of competing and because of stockjobbing.</p>
<p>No, in my eyes it&#8217;s not an act of patriotism to conserve gas. It should be the duty and the interest of the governments to protect their citizens from the worst implications. It should be, because what we&#8217;re witnessing right now is a perversion of the free market. A virtual market making money out of everybodies pockets without the least competition and to the benefit of only a few chosen ones. It should be in the interest of the government because a world wide crisis will lead to unrest and wars.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your actions are great, in a sense they can be termed patriotic. A patriotic act is something that benefits and is in support of your country if I&#039;m correct. That is exactly what you are doing. I also think there are more ways that ordninary people can help. A large coordinated boycott of one of the Big Oil companies can help make a statement. 

I’m part of a campaign to boycott Exxon Mobil, the current leader in profits during this energy crisis. Check it out here https://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/send-a-message-to-the-oil-companies/overview

We can all do our part and this is a way to get involved. It doesn&#039;t require much to make something big happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your actions are great, in a sense they can be termed patriotic. A patriotic act is something that benefits and is in support of your country if I&#8217;m correct. That is exactly what you are doing. I also think there are more ways that ordninary people can help. A large coordinated boycott of one of the Big Oil companies can help make a statement. </p>
<p>I’m part of a campaign to boycott Exxon Mobil, the current leader in profits during this energy crisis. Check it out here <a href="https://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/send-a-message-to-the-oil-companies/overview" rel="nofollow">https://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/send-a-message-to-the-oil-companies/overview</a></p>
<p>We can all do our part and this is a way to get involved. It doesn&#8217;t require much to make something big happen.</p>
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		<title>By: ChenZhen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChenZhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wickle-

&lt;blockquote&gt;As for being out of the Carter era … well, you know … the gas situation is getting to be there, too.

Wait a minute … those are car speakers? That’s insane …
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, the gas prices broke the inflation adjusted record &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2135732920070521?feedType=RSS&amp;rpc=22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;last year&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.  We&#039;re officially in uncharted territory now.

And yes, those are car speakers.  You&#039;ve never seen that?  That&#039;s nothing. LOL  The box must have weighed 100 lbs, so losing it helped I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wickle-</p>
<blockquote><p>As for being out of the Carter era … well, you know … the gas situation is getting to be there, too.</p>
<p>Wait a minute … those are car speakers? That’s insane …
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<p>Actually, the gas prices broke the inflation adjusted record <i><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2135732920070521?feedType=RSS&amp;rpc=22" rel="nofollow">last year</a></i>.  We&#8217;re officially in uncharted territory now.</p>
<p>And yes, those are car speakers.  You&#8217;ve never seen that?  That&#8217;s nothing. LOL  The box must have weighed 100 lbs, so losing it helped I think.</p>
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