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We Aren’t Leaving Iraq Anytime Soon

May 22, 2007

I think I’m finally accepting the reality that this terrible idea that is the Iraq war is really a decades-long commitment, whether I like it or not.  Just look at a few of the headlines that have popped up in the last few days:

Yeah.  Instead of going on a long rant about this, maybe I should just post something a little less depressing….

Comin’ right up.

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3 comments

  1. I guess the majority of the American people don’t want to give up and accept defeat in Iraq. It must be that, because, Reid and Pelosi kept saying they were just doing what the American people wanted. Seems to me, if they really believed that, they would have had no problem voting to just defund the war and bring our troops home now.

    As far as your poll showing 39% approval rating for Bush to be impeached. Our founding fathers put no provision for polls being any part of Congress seeking impeachment of a President, so that is really a mute and irrevelant point. You can get polls to say anything you want depending on how you ask a question, what demographic you decide to call, etc.

    36% of Democrats polled say they believe Bush had foreknowledge of the 9-11 attacks. What does that tell you about the absolute idiots we have out there anyway. Does that make you more or less proud to be part of the Democrat Party?


  2. As far as your poll showing 39% approval rating for Bush to be impeached. Our founding fathers put no provision for polls being any part of Congress seeking impeachment of a President, so that is really a mute and irrevelant point. You can get polls to say anything you want depending on how you ask a question, what demographic you decide to call, etc.
    36% of Democrats polled say they believe Bush had foreknowledge of the 9-11 attacks. What does that tell you about the absolute idiots we have out there anyway. Does that make you more or less proud to be part of the Democrat Party?

    First off, I’m not a member of the Democrat party. I like to think of myself as a free thinker, who (for the most part) leans that way on most issues.

    Second, the first point quoted undermines your second one. I agree, it is how the poll is worded. From a certain point of view, Bush’s administration did have foreknowledge of 9/11, as evidenced by revelations of the August 2001 memo “Bin Laden intends to attack” etc. That doesn’t necessarily mean that he planned the attack ar anything like that, just that the administration knew that an attack was imminent, and for whatever reason ignored it. Certain people will answer different ways, like you said. It doesn’t necessarily make 36% of Democrats ‘truthers’ (or that there were explosives planted in the WTC).

    Third, I’m not sure if it’s wise to boil the debate over what to do in Iraq in black-and-white terms like ‘victory’ and ‘defeat’. Again, from a certain point of view, we already ‘won’ (Saddam is dead, WMDs are gone/not found, and sovereignty established). The debate should be framed around the idea of what’s best for America’s interests given the current realities (both in Iraq and domestically). I’m as distressed as anyone with the partisan power plays being made by both sides. We need to put that aside, as there are literally people dying over there (not to mention the billions being spent on it).


  3. No, my first point about polls did not undermine my second one. I was illustrating how absurd polls can be, whether the reason being the fallacy of polling, or the utter stupidity of Democrats. Knowing an attack was imminent is far from the Rosie O’ loonies that believe Bush was a part of it. The story I read on that poll I am referencing to suggests they also believe Bush played a part in the attacks of 9-11.

    Just a FYI – I am not a Republican, just a conservative who votes Republican because the Democrats want nothing to do with 95% of my beliefs. Like Mitt Romney said when asked if he could support a pro-choice Rudy if nominated. He said yes because at least the subject of being pro-life could be brought up and debated in the Republican Party, that is not true in the Democrat Party, you can’t even bring that issue, among others, up for discussion.



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