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Kos Urges Michigan To Vote For Romney

January 12, 2008

There are reactions across political web to this: Let’s have some fun in Michigan

For Michigan Democrats, the Democratic primary is meaningless since the DNC stripped the state of all its delegates (at least temporarily) for violating partyrebelleader.jpg rules. Hillary Clinton is alone on the ballot.

But on the GOP side, this primary will be fiercely contested. John McCain is currently enjoying the afterglow of media love since his New Hamsphire victory, while Iowa winner Mike Huckabee is poised to do well in South Carolina.  

Meanwhile, poor Mitt Romney, who’s suffered back-to-back losses in the last week, desperately needs to win Michigan in order to keep his campaign afloat.  Bottom line, if Romney loses Michigan, he’s out. If he wins, he stays in.

And we want Romney in, because the more Republican candidates we have fighting it out, trashing each other with negative ads and spending tons of money, the better it is for us. We want Mitt to stay in the race, and to do that, we need him to win in Michigan.

Forget the ethical implications, the effect on Kos’ reputation, and the fact that it reveals a certain lack of confidence in one’s own candidates,  I’m not convinced that this tactic will work quite the way he’s hoping.  I don’t know if he can pull together such a movement in only a few days.

If it works?  This has come-back-to-bite-you-on-the-ass written all over it.   Suppose Mitt goes on to win the general election?  Kos would be the laughing stock of the blogophere.  It just seems like a risk that isn’t worth the potential reward.

I don’t live in Michigan, but even as an Obama supporter, I can’t endorse this sort of subversion.  I’m not so blinded by partisanship to believe that its worth tainting our democratic process.  The tactic sounds childish, and the fact that he believes that he can influence such a thing seems arrogant and egotistical.  Luckily, after 900+ comments in that Kos thread, the reaction is mixed.  Many believe as I do.  Others wonder if another candidate should be the target.  Currently, I think this idea will flop, but Kos will probably wind up with some egg on his face either way. 

I would hope that if you’re an independent or Democrat and decided to vote for a GOP candidate, it would be for the person most in-line with your political views.  Period.

Update:  There’s actually an ad now. (h/t Katie for the email) 

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14 comments

  1. I saw this and was aghast. It is the kind of thing I thought might happen in the environment of the Dems boycottting the states primary (except Hill). I also don’t think Kos logic is sound. Mitt is a potential survivor of Super Tues. and capable more than some others of getting I’s to vote in a general election. Even as a Mitt supporter I found this troublesome. Good post and I enjoyed seeing someone from the “other side” take a position.


  2. From a tactical standpoint, it might make a certain amount of sense, but what he’s doing bothers me on an ethical level — voting isn’t supposed to be a game.

    And, yes, that same condemnation applies to Republicans voting for Jackson and such. Voting isn’t supposed to be a tool used to screw the other guy.

    And in2theFray is right. There is every possibility that Romney could be the nominee, and could make a run at Clinton or Obama.


  3. I wonder to what extent this could backfire and result in people disassociating themselves from Kos over this. He’s certainly taken a notch down in my book.

    Also, considering how open the GOP race is at this point, I wonder if there could be a negative dynamic or at least a cancellation of the Dem votes. For example, this could influence a few of the severely undecideds who otherwise might have voted Romney to vote for someone else simply to spite Kos, especially if these shenanigans get a lot of airplay from the pundits out there.


  4. No body but unhinged basement boys care what Kos say’s anyway..


  5. The other component if I understand it right. If a Dem votes in any of the primaries,in this case the GOP this keeps them from being non committed later and elegigible to vote for the dem of choice. It’s weird


  6. I suspect that TRM is probably most right, here. While we (let’s face it … everyone commenting here is at least sort of a junkie) have strong feelings about it, most normal people don’t get worked up over what Kos says or suggests. Much less would most people do what he says, even if it wasn’t stupid.

    If Romney does win the primary and carries a bunch of Dem districts, some Huckabee and McCain supporters (not I,of course, but some …) might question how real his win was, but I don’t think that most people would care.

    I’d like to think that most people are above this kind of stuff.


  7. TRM- It’s hard to say for certain how much influence Kos actually has. There is a reason why they are called the “netroots” though. Add to that the chance that the idea may get some free publicity from the likes of people like Rush or O’Reilly on Monday, and who knows what might happen.


  8. I think this strategy has a major potential for back firing. Romney won the non evangelical vote in Iowa by a three to one margin. He won the Republican vote in New Hampshire, he lost the Independant vote there.And he is already the leading delegate holder. Once he gets to states where only Republicans vote in their own primary and states where evangelicals won’t vote for a candidate just based on his religion, he will do really well. That is why I hope they take this advice.
    If they really wanted to throw a wrench into the system they should vote for a Hunter or Paul, someone with no shot to win the primary.


  9. The only “race” issue interesting to me in this entire primary season isn’t on the Republican side but the Dimocratic one. I have already guaranteed the Republican nominee one vote in the election – no matter whom the candidate is short of the bizarre Ron Paul. No worries there. So Chenzhen and I will be canceling each other out in the popular vote, as always.

    What is really interesting to me is to observe that the race baiting Dims, the party of the supposed big tent, have been exposed at their own little nasty game of categorizing by color.

    On one side, you’ve got blacks now calling out Hillary and Bill as closet bigots. Seems our first “black President” isn’t so black after all. On the other side, you’ve got the largest minority group, the Hispanics, very much troubled by what they perceive as a black bigot – this blog’s favorite son, Obama.

    And I for one am going to love watching the Dims get to dance a little around the bigotry accusation this go around. Give you a little taste of false accusation with no ability to prove but only deny. Enjoy the dance pimps…


  10. Tex Talor, you may be interested in my post on this very same issue.

    Hillary Clintons Campaign Charged With Making Racially Insensitive Comments


  11. Mpinkeyes,

    Nice post…(the one at your blog). You’re one of the few I have read that actually gets it, or at the very least one of the few with the guts to say the obvious.

    Dimocrats little game of race baiting is beginning to blow back on them. Since politics is most Dim’s religion (helping to explain the disdain for Joe Lieberman), they will use any means necessary to insure their retaining power: lying about faith, false accusation, intimidation, cheating, raising the dead to vote, slander and libel, all acceptable if it means the Dimocrats can obtain and/or retain political power.

    Being that I have some real issues with the Republican candidates, I haven’t taken a stake in any of the nominees. Truth is, none of them do much for me either and I remain unimpressed with any of those leading the pack, though the the GOP candidates are infinitely better than the Dimocratic ones as the debates have shown. When the real debating starts between parties, Obama will be shown to be a major lightweight. Whether than can prevent him from winning remains to be seen because there is no doubt Americans want change. What many fail to recognize is it can change for the worse; much worse. I do know for a fact that much of the Hispanic community abhors Barack Obama.

    It will be politics as usual, no matter the winner so I stick with the one party I think best represents something besides amoral values and will do best for our military.

    But if I had to choose the nominees that I think will win and face off, I still stay with my original picks to win even if the pundits say no way:

    Hillary vs. Rudy

    Of course, I thought Dallas and Indy would win yesterday.


  12. Post updated w/ video.


  13. […] chenzhen has a discussion whether this is a good idea or not and a wingnut blows his stack and sues kos! […]


  14. I don’t have much use for these internet clowns like Kos, but Bob Novak has been reporting that Washington insiders from both sides of the aisle find Mitt Romney to be unelectable. He’s the sort of uninspiring, bland candidate that reminds me of John Kerry or Bob Dole. Kos isn’t taking a huge risk here.



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