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Chamber Election Day Thread

November 4, 2008

Well, it felt like this day would never come, but here it is.  Get out there and vote everyone!

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I’ll be stuck at work the whole day, so I’ll have to get my election result updates via CNN’s twitter feed (hopefully they’ll txt me state-by-state results as they come in).

I guess I’ll hesitantly take the opportunity to offer up a prediction, and say that Obama will win by a healthy margin. L-Word, even.  I’m predictably basing this on the analysis of the latest polls and election maps, but especially on the hints that the so-called “cell phone only” numbers reveal.  But I’m keeping the beer on ice ’till the fat lady sings.

So here it is, the obligatory thread for the big day. 

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66 comments

  1. I got to early vote, already done! 2 Obama votes this household. Of course my state will probably go McCain, but it sure felt good anyway. If my red little county can be swung Obama it’ll say a lot.

    Hey, you should post about these false claims and flyers aimed to get minorities not to vote. I would but no one goes to my blog…..LOL.


  2. I agree ChenZhen in that Obama will win big and be a mandate for the Democracts to bring about change.

    Ideas and Revolution – If you’re not outraged you’re not reading this blog


  3. Thanks for going there to vote buddy! We can’t let them steal this election (again 😉

    http://coolors.com


  4. Unless McCain is sworn in, and then dies in office, we’re screwed, either way. John McCain is a RINO of the worst demeanor, and Barack Obama is a non-Christian, refuses to take donation money from corporations (which are the pistons of our economic and political machine), and has openly stated that we should lose the War on Terror.

    The only way you can go to heaven is by voting for John McCain while praying for Palin to usurp the Presidency, or by voting for Chuck Baldwin. Either way, you must pray!

    BTW, ChenZhen, could I join the WP Political Blogger Alliance?


  5. @Objective Scrutator

    I must assume your comment and blog is political satire…

    Ideas and Revolution – If you’re not outraged you’re not reading this blog


  6. General Chen, wake up and get to posting some news here! And congrats while we’re at it 🙂


  7. Nothing I could say would have the eloquence to properly match this moment in our history. In his acceptance speech, Obama made it clear that he will be President to everyone, even Objective Scrutator. 🙂

    Let’s raise a glass to the rebirth of America!


  8. Well, phew. Obama won. Now he owes me! 😉

    I should probably resist the urge to go over to those righty blogs and gloat, as Joe the Plumber rides into the sunset.


  9. When do I get my pony?


  10. Comrades, the proletariat has spoken.

    The question that remains to be answered in the coming months is will a President Obama be able to shed the hard left ideology he has embraced his entire life and listen to economic advisers warning him of the coming train wreck his policies will create or will he stumble headfirst into a world-wide economic collapse? The American economy is now between Barack and a hard place.


  11. “R”,

    Let’s raise a glass to the rebirth of America!

    😆

    I couldn’t help myself. I had to come see my adversaries gloat at our “rebirth”, starting with the implementation of previous failed policies.

    Congratulations “R” and the General. Worthy spinmeisters you are and generally polite too, unlike the religious bigot Pawn and the military hatin’ UglyKay. A tip of the cap. Shoot, I found myself pausing Lonesome Dove (best western ever made IMHO) last night to check on the status of the Bachmann election. I didn’t even know who she was until a few weeks back.

    Starting Jan 20th, let the fight begin. Oh heck, why wait that long. Let’s start now.

    http://patdollard.com/2008/11/obama-acceptance-speech-cough-bash-tweaked-it-a-little/

    How’s that for a rebirth, “R”? 😉

    See you the next go around…


  12. Tex, you didn’t even congratulate me:(


  13. Well Ms. Lex,

    Let me now congratulate one of my most favorite and lost libs…

    Why, you’re so sweet, I can’t even think of a rotten put down other than the standard fare offhand.

    Hope you’re feeling well.


  14. “R”,

    Remember when you told me your superior intellect Haaavard crowd (Yankee types) don’t end their “a” in “er”?

    I just heard the socialist Bernie Sanders call Obama Obamer…I like that. I think I’ll start calling THE ONE Obamer.


  15. Tex, thing’s would’ve gotten very dull around here without you.. Seriously 🙂


  16. Sphinx,

    How ya been friend? I haven’t talked to you in ages…

    Two years ago, I never thought you and I would find a damn thing in common besides wanting to hold a gun to each other’s head. But with what has happened over at LGF what I hear, I almost consider you kin now.


  17. I’m wondering if IOEOTO, Cadillac Tight, The Chamber and In2theFray should create one large election postmortem for the political bloggers alliance we all agree to post on the same day.

    One real reflection on the election, one expectation for things to come sort of thing.

    Just an idea.


  18. Tex,

    yes, time does wonders, doesn’t it 😉
    It’s way past midnight, I’m ripping my hair out over some homework, have finished the last bits of food around here, the sock gnomes have been a bit greedy lately, and my desk looks like it’s been through a nuclear war or two. And yet, all is still well..

    How’s life been serving you?


  19. Sphinx,

    Perfect timing…

    yes, time does wonders, doesn’t it

    Not time but exposure. See Charlie is an equal opportunity disser. It took me a little while, but I suddenly realized Charlie hates my “religion” as much as yours.

    That makes us brothers – equally disdained by Charlie J. And in my book that gives you at least one outstanding personal quality you and I can share.


  20. Hey, all you liberals who wouldn’t know taste if it slapped you across the face. What kind of dress was it that our future first lady and anti-American shill Michelle wearing last night?

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/11/who-designed-mi.html

    If she would have had four more legs, I’d swear she was posing as the black widow.


  21. Makes me laugh…somebody else thought Mrs. Obama looked like the black widow too in the comments.

    I wonder why Obamer didn’t pick a prettier wife – it damn sure wasn’t her pleasant disposition. I mean he’s not a bad looking guy. Shotgun marriage, or something.


  22. I thought Mrs. Obama’s dress was kinda cool, actually. And one’d be hard-pressed to catch me saying something like that…ever.


  23. I thought Mrs. Obama’s dress was kinda cool, actually. And one’d be hard-pressed to catch me saying something like that…ever.

    Saint Chenzhen,

    Aren’t you the one that compared John McCain’s wife to the Crept Keeper? Wrote an entire thread on it as I recall?

    Did you learn that humility at the altar of Obamer?


  24. Well, I mean, c’mon. Honestly, Cindy McCain looks like the damn Crypt Keeper.

    Anyway, I must admit that I’m still in a state of partial disbelief over this whole thing. The guy’s name is Barack Hussein Obama, fer cryin out loud. On the surface, that alone makes one a longshot. Add to that, his race and (relative) inexperience, and it is somewhat amazing that he overcame all that to become the next POTUS.

    Tangentially, I should also say that I got into blogging out of anticipation for this day (I really didn’t care a whole lot about politics until I saw the march into Iraq play out in front of me on TV). I suppose, at this point, I feel that this event represents a sort of change of paradigm for me, since the guy that I voted for is finally going to be in there, and the train wreck that was/is the Bush admin. will soon be coming to an end. So, after years of bashing Bush and hoping that America makes it to see the next president in one piece, I’m not quite sure what direction my blogging will take now that this closure is in sight. I think I’ll try to concentrate on making sure that Obama is the president that I hope he would be, and take him to task when he isn’t. I don’t plan on being an unconditional defender, in any case.


  25. I think I’ll try to concentrate on making sure that Obama is the president that I hope he would be, and take him to task when he isn’t. I don’t plan on being an unconditional defender, in any case.

    I have this very funny feeling you’re going to be sorely disappointed General. Not because Obamer’s not a lefty; he is. But he won’t be able to stay on the ‘America is the cause of all evil side’ where you live if Obamer wants to get re-elected.

    This megalomaniac is first concerned most with himself because I don’t think he’s too rooted in much else. He literally was elected as the man of no ideas. The tax plan is a joke and most people know it. Hell, Wall Street told us today what they think of the truth of Obamer.

    But I got this gut feeling Obamer’s pragmatic enough like the serial rapist Clinton that he is going to throw you, KKKos and Rutherford into the path of the oncoming train like he did Jeremiah and is grandma when you become inconvenient political baggage.

    It won’t be 18 months before you’ll find some new fruit loop to grasp onto and Obama will be tarred and feathered by your crowd until the general election. Then anybody with a ‘D’ beside their name you’ll be pulling straight line. If not, Obamer won’t be there too long.

    I told you and I meant it that this side is much easier to sit on. All I’ve got to do is criticize, obfuscate, and throw rocks for four years. Do you know how much fun Tex is going to have at libbie’s expense? Already tonight, courtesy of your links I’ve already pissed several of them off on their one day they had to celebrate. And I’m not even warmed up yet Chen.

    Of course, I spare you because I have a soft spot in my heart for my buddies.


  26. Tex, welcome back. If you search through a few threads and the Chamber lounge, you’ll see the “love letters” I left for you. 🙂

    As for the Obama speech excerpt link you left for me, I found it quite funny because I actually found McCain’s “stand up and fight” rant that closes his stump speech to be incredibly Third Reich sounding and I don’t even need to have it translated to German.

    Tex, I think it will be you who will be sorely disappointed because Obama will do exactly what you hate him for. He will be practical. He will lean toward the center. He will be moderate in all things. The huge left-wing commie disaster going on in your head will not come to pass.


  27. I told you and I meant it that this side is much easier to sit on. All I’ve got to do is criticize, obfuscate, and throw rocks for four years. Do you know how much fun Tex is going to have at libbie’s expense? Already tonight, courtesy of your links I’ve already pissed several of them off on their one day they had to celebrate. And I’m not even warmed up yet Chen.

    Of course, I spare you because I have a soft spot in my heart for my buddies.

    Oh Tex, you will try to keep those hinges attached, won’t you? Don’t go all Atlas Shrugs on us. You could at least give the guy a chance.


  28. Ah “R”, I’m touched…all the across my transverse colon.

    Nah, we wouldn’t like each other. We’d be professional and courteous. You’ve got a pretty good sense of humor (for a lib), we share having daughters, there wouldn’t be trouble unless you started the religious bigotry. So we could laugh a bit and I wouldn’t treat you like a rabid skunk like I do here. But like? I don’t think so. To like, I think there has to be a measure of respect.

    What friends that I have that our Democrats are conservative – but not the strict political definition. And it’s not simply being Christian either. There’s a mind set that is hard to dictate across a blog.

    There are a bunch on the board here like you, Chen, Marc, Mike, and Lex that are fun to throw rocks at and I expect the same in return. I assume you are decent people, albeit confused. I don’t mean to insinuate I throw you all in the same pot. However, there are also a few here that if somebody vaporized and I got wind of it, I’ll probably stand up and clap.

    ———

    I’ve got this lib neighbor – a throw back to a 1967 commune who thinks we need a revolution like the 60’s. I mean you would look like Jesse Helms next to this one “R”. She had this Barry Obamer billboard sized sign in her yard along with every other schmuck with a ‘D’ next to their name. They all lost in the state. And every other year she comes to the door to pass political brochures to the Tex family because my wife is a registered Democrat. I smile, receive them warmly and use them to pick up dog shit. My wife shakes her head because she’s has some class – but she doesn’t protest either.

    My state went 2:1 for McCain. And every other year come November this old coot for a neighbor cusses our state as stupid as she moved here from Michigan, always telling us about the great old days in her beloved town. Today was liveable because the messiah won as I said hi to her while I was raking leaves, as she floated across the lawn. I thought to myself, “how empty she must be that these elections are all she apparently has.” Yet, she refuses to leave my ‘stupid’ state. It’s because even a lib knows a good thing when they experience it and truth be known, she has no desire to move back. Tragic, really.

    Anyway, I’m nice to her. I’ve bailed her out a few times because her equally worthless husband left her a few years back for another woman. I’ve helped around her house without asking, checked on her after storms, mowed her yard for her without being asked… Good neighbor, Good Samaritan, whatever. I’d treat you the same.

    But you were mistaken when you talked about “feelings being hurt.” You talk about feelings but don’t recognize contempt. I peruse these blogs out of morbid curiosity. I have absolutely no desire for unification. I do know that there is a large part of this country that I don’t give a damn what happens to it. I do recognize that there are good and bad in every place and that’s not terribly Christian like. I don’t wish ill will – but neither do I care.

    I ain’t lifting a finger to help if something happens to Vermont, or Boston, or Berkeley, or Chicago, or Hollywood, or NYC, or a handful of other places. I no longer share that unity Barry speaks of. I’ll grab the chips and change the channel to the ballgame next time.

    This election and the respective candidates were a joke. Obamer may be pragmatic as you speak – but I also know he’s not near as talented as you would like to believe. It’s fun to needle each other on the board. You’re a worthy adversary, as are those listed above.

    Finally, this time let me warn you of something like you did my glamour. Don’t mistake this as a referendum for Obamer. He won approximately 2% more than Gore. Oh, Obamer is pretty and he speaks eloquently when scripted. He’s a gift snakeoil salesman. That will get you some votes. No, this election was about Bush, about Republican spending, about an unpopular war, about broken promises, and about complete ignorance of what drives an economy.

    Liberalism is a dismal failure. It always has been – it always will. If Obama manages that way, he won’t last. And if you were the betting man, I would wager some serious dollars that I am right.


  29. Ah Chen,

    Oh Tex, you will try to keep those hinges attached, won’t you? Don’t go all Atlas Shrugs on us. You could at least give the guy a chance.

    You take this way too seriously. I hope you really don’t believe that I believe my life revolves around a miserable candidate. I know there are some out there of my political persuasion that do. A complete waste of time.

    I was just making the point it is so much easier playing offense. I don’t even have to think.


  30. Tex,

    Not time but exposure. See Charlie is an equal opportunity disser. It took me a little while, but I suddenly realized Charlie hates my “religion” as much as yours.

    That makes us brothers – equally disdained by Charlie J. And in my book that gives you at least one outstanding personal quality you and I can share.

    His constant harping on creationism et al. is somewhere between uncreative and deranged. Never mind that his ramblings fly in the face of my own beliefs (as well as yours, I presume), I stopped worrying about that long ago.

    So you’re right, in a way that really makes us like brothers. And despite all our differences, this highlights how much more we have in common than previously though 😉

    Oh well, don’t want to derail the ongoing discussion. So carry on guys..


  31. Urgh, lost a ‘t’: than previously thought


  32. Sphinx,

    His constant harping on creationism et al. is somewhere between uncreative and deranged. Never mind that his ramblings fly in the face of my own beliefs (as well as yours, I presume), I stopped worrying about that long ago.

    You know that Charlie’s incessant whining about Creationism and fundamentalists (or whatever he is patronizing us as today) has little to do with science and everything to do with his secular world view.

    You’ve got to admit that it is ironic in that as we discuss this subject recognizing no matter our deepest held beliefs, and they are diametrically opposed, both of us shake our heads at Charlie’s mindset.

    Charles Johnson doesn’t even know enough about programming to index his tables correctly. What’s it take? About 10 minutes to load LGF? What would make two guys who have at least been educated in the sciences think Charlie knew the first damn thing about something as complex as the formation of life?

    I laugh out loud picturing Charlie contemplating the formation of the universe. Probably in between a couple of glasses of Chardonnay while adjusting his bike spokes.


  33. Chen you said

    I hope he would be, and take him to task when he isn’t. I don’t plan on being an unconditional defender, in any case.

    I never got around to giving you your much earned Obama Pail but I do so look forward to see what you’re like with your guy in the Oval.


  34. What kind of dress was it that our future first lady and anti-American shill Michelle wearing last night?

    Putting aside the “anti-American” comment which is just plain juvenile, I have to agree with Tex that the dress was atrocious. Shame Mr. Blackwell didn’t live a few more months so he could put that one on worst dressed for 2008.

    However, while I’m here, Tex shouldn’t you tone down the rhetoric a bit on the future First Lady? Seriously, whatever did she do to you? Michelle Obama has class and intellect, and is every bit the role model that Laura Bush is with the minor exception that I suspect she is better at keeping her man in line than Laura is. 🙂


  35. Michelle Obama has class and intellect, and is every bit the role model that Laura Bush is with the minor exception that I suspect she is better at keeping her man in line than Laura is.

    Have you taken up drinking again? Can you imagine the kind of horrid mother that would take her children to hear Rev. Wright for 10 years?

    Do you know what I picture about Mrs. Obamer if I were to guess what sitting in the room with her is like? Did you ever see the Color Purple? If so, do you remember Sofia (Oprah Winfrey’s character)? That’s Shelly.

    Of course, I believe you are right about Michelle being the dominatrix type. I bet she’s keeping more than her man in line. 🙂

    I guarantee Hillary Rotten, even tossing lamps at Bill, will be thought of as Mrs. Butterworth around the Whitehouse after Michelle has mouthed off and whacked the folks for four years. I just hope Michelle’s smart mouth and haughtiness doesn’t piss Mrs. Putin off enough for Vladimir to start pushing buttons.

    Everybody that has ever worked with Mrs. Obamer hates her guts. Even the libbie press is terrified of her when she threw them to the back of the plane. Another woeful lack of judgment on Obamer’s part.

    Come about February, Mr. Obamer will hide Mrs. Obamer in the Whitehouse basement or the rose bushes away from guests. You and Chen’s Whitehouse Christmas card you receive in the mail for your $5 donation, payable upon receipt, with our dear first lady and the cute kids posing with the guard dogs near the rose bushes, because the dogs will be the only ones left standing.

    The people I’m feeling most sorry for after the election are the Whitehouse elevator attendant, the chef, and Mrs. Obama’s personal assistant. It makes me feel better to know at least three people are getting ready to get a rougher screwing than I am.

    They’ll be browbeat into submission soon enough, never to recover. Who knows, we might have attendants jumping off the roof to end the misery.


  36. Tex, good googly moogly, are you projecting or what? Usually you’re good for a citation or two. Please cite even a marginally reliable source that paints the Hillary-on-steroids picture of Michelle that you have painted here.


  37. Please cite even a marginally reliable source that paints the Hillary-on-steroids picture of Michelle that you have painted here.

    Why? You guys never feel the need to back up your works of art with sources. When you do, you guys think editorials from Newsweek, NY Times, KKKos, PuffHO, and Keith Olbermann commentary are credible. And you don’t ever answer my questions Rutherford.

    Again, what kind of a mother takes her own children to Rev. Wright’s house of horrors for 10 years, baptizes her children by this monster? Come on ‘R’, spin it like you always do.

    By the way “R”, I’m going to laugh my ass off when Newsweek and the NYTimes go out of business and that’s a given unless something drastically changes.

    Answer my question and I’ll give you my ‘proof’.


  38. “Why? You guys never feel the need to back up your works of art with sources.”

    Settin’ the bar low.


  39. R-
    What you fail to understand is that having even a hint of a black nationalist streak in you makes you a bad person.


  40. Settin’ the bar low.

    I have to so you can play…


  41. What you fail to understand is that having even a hint of a black nationalist streak in you makes you a bad person.

    So I guess it will be okay for me to preach that AIDS was an invention of “colored” people to kill all the whites and call it just a hint of white nationalism?

    People who think like you I used to think humorous and dumb. Now I think you’re intentionally wicked and dumb.


  42. Here Mike, you like sources.

    In the theatre of my mind, this is what I picture when I think of the FearBush crowd and avowed Obamer supporters. Here’s a perfect example of the new generation that is changing the nation… 😆

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5105475.ece


  43. Tex-
    “People who think like you I used to think humorous and dumb. Now I think you’re intentionally wicked and dumb.”

    Hey, man, why are you getting all prissy? I’m agreeing with you. Michele Obama went to a church with a black nationalist, so obviously she’s a black nationalist. Black nationalists are all bad people because all of them, even the people they associate with, believe that the US government invented AIDS. There’s no way in hell anyone can take pride in their black heritage in the way Italians take pride in Italian heritage by setting Little Italy’s and Italian business leagues and social clubs. This is totally impossible. Any sentient observer of American social life will realize this.

    Plus, there is absolutely no disagreement whatsoever within the black nationalist community. Doye.


  44. “‘What you fail to understand is that having even a hint of a black nationalist streak in you makes you a bad person.’

    So I guess it will be okay for me to preach that AIDS was an invention of “colored” people to kill all the whites and call it just a hint of white nationalism?”

    I was talking about Michele Obama. She’s the one with a hint of a streak. To the best of my knowledge she’s never said that. Although she did say ‘whitey.’ Everybody knows that.

    Although, I can imagine she’s pretty stoked about finally getting her hands on the secret CIA files which will finally close the case. I bet there are some 70 year old government epidemiologists shaking in their boots!


  45. “So I guess it will be okay for me to preach that AIDS was an invention of “colored” people to kill all the whites and call it just a hint of white nationalism?”’

    No, but if you like you can say that black people are trying to destroy America through hip-hop, crime, drugs, and single-mothers and call yourself a white nationalist.


  46. @ Rutherford

    However, while I’m here, Tex shouldn’t you tone down the rhetoric a bit on the future First Lady? Seriously, whatever did she do to you? Michelle Obama has class and intellect, and is every bit the role model that Laura Bush is with the minor exception that I suspect she is better at keeping her man in line than Laura is.

    Dude you just left that comment on a post written by someone that likened Cindy McCain to the Crypt Keeper. I would also say that Laura has proven herself to be someone her partner could lean on as opposed to duck from thrown objects. All that said I’d say people should indeed reserve commentary on Michelle Obama until she does something. For those that think TUCC attendance was worthy of smashing her. I’d say thinking real hard and deciding how deep you want to go on that is the order of the day.


  47. Dude you just left that comment on a post written by someone that likened Cindy McCain to the Crypt Keeper.

    LOL Good point. But it was never intended as a jab at her class or intellect, or her ability to be a role model. It was simply a superficial observation (which I prefaced as such), and I made an attempt to back up my assertion, complete with my own forensic anthropology and all that.

    Also consider the fact that “cindy mccain crypt keeper” is in the Chamber’s top ten search terms as far as incoming traffic goes, so obviously I wasn’t the only one who thought there was a similarity.

    Cindy McCain looks like the Crypt Keeper. Period. We can move on now.


  48. Okay Mike,

    If I misunderstood you, I apologize. I can read your post 10 times and still never know where you stand.

    Alfie,

    Let’s say for a minute (just pretend) that instead of TUCC, Obama and his ummm lovely wife had been sitting in a Louis Farrakhan mosque for 20 years listening to his screed about Jews being the devil.

    Now, tell me how Jeremiah Wright is any different in his opinions of whites than Louie is in his opinion of Jews. There is no difference. Both are equal opportunity hatemongers no matter race, creed or color. I could make a pretty good case that Wright might be worse because he uses his congregation for self gain like that mansion of a house in the ‘burbs courtesy of some poverty stricken folks at TUCC. This Wright combines the hate mongering of Louie with pandering ripoffs of the TV evangelists like Robert Tilton. There will be a special place in hell for Jeremiah – of that, I’m sure.

    Anyway, this ‘classy’ couple Rutherford speaks of not only sat on their collective hands for 20 years listening to these sermons straight out of the bowels of hell, and continued to do so until Wright became political baggage, but also dragged their cute little girls during their formative years there to learn it too.

    Now, I know a lot of libs like Rutherford that would consider me deranged and abusive to take my own daughters and wife down to listen to an Aryan Brotherhood seminar each Sunday morning. And they would be right to believe so – even I used the ‘excuse’ it was a political opportunity and nothing else. Twenty years of this shit.

    But for Rutherford, Chen, Marc and the host of other lefties here, politic trumps all else. They will literally drop all pretense of decency to defend – I don’t care how outrageous or deceitful.

    And I don’t get it because at least in Rutherford and Marc’s case, I know they are reasonably bright and apparently not bad guys.

    I’ll say this about Hillary Clinton. She’s a scumbag politician, a cutthroat, ruthless, lying, man hatin’, political hatchet as mean as they come. But there has never been a time that I didn’t think Hillary Clinton the loving, caring mother. She made that perfectly obvious and sheltered Chelsea Clinton just like we would our kids. She wouldn’t have dragged her kids to listen to this filth. One time and she would have been gone.

    Why the WordPress, KKKos types discount something this obvious and this fundamental after having already won an election, and now have the opportunity to be truthful about some of this abhorrent behavior and they still deny it, I don’t get it.

    I can accept the double standard deceit to sway votes. Maybe you’re a union man who wants a Dim as President; maybe you hate the war; maybe you hate Bush; maybe you hate Tex and want to stick it up his ass and steal his money and pillage his house – all valid reasons to pull the ‘D’ lever. Politics is politics.

    But to openly deny it now?

    And the only explanation I can come up to ease my mind is, “Tex, you better learn to give the devil his due.” Because this one is way beyond natural comprehension.


  49. Good point. But it was never intended as a jab at her class or intellect, or her ability to be a role model. It was simply a superficial observation (which I prefaced as such), and I made an attempt to back up my assertion, complete with my own forensic anthropology and all that.

    Then why don’t you plaster Michelle Obama’s picture up against Zira from the Planet of the Apes? I’ve read of a few skinhead types, wingnuts, and anthropologists too that have made that observation across the web.

    Hell yes, that’s crass. I intend it to be because I think The Chamber’s hypocrisy and double standard boundless.

    For instance…

    Also consider the fact that “cindy mccain crypt keeper” is in the Chamber’s top ten search terms as far as incoming traffic goes, so obviously I wasn’t the only one who thought there was a similarity.

    That’s the third time you’ve mentioned that and yet it was just last week you told all of us traffic was unimportant. I’ll make you a bet Chen. You take my suggestion from above and I’ll bet you get a lot more traffic than the Crypt Keeper post if that’s your balance of judgment in what’s becoming.

    And before you start preaching to me about my own lack of class about Kay and her crowd, I fully admit I’ve now declared war on anybody that bad-mouths our military or mocks my religion. But I don’t hide behind some proposed juvenile innocence either.

    So why don’t you admit the same?


  50. Haven’t we covered the Wright thing before Tex? Do we know how often the Obamas attended TUCC? Do we know that the handful of 3 second clips is representative of the whole 20 years?

    No, we don’t.

    You assume the worst; I give him the benefit of the doubt.

    There, I was truthful.


  51. Tex-

    Then why don’t you plaster Michelle Obama’s picture up against Zira from the Planet of the Apes? I’ve read of a few skinhead types, wingnuts, and anthropologists too that have made that observation across the web.

    Really? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, but do you have a link? Trust but verify, after all…

    That’s the third time you’ve mentioned that and yet it was just last week you told all of us traffic was unimportant. I’ll make you a bet Chen. You take my suggestion from above and I’ll bet you get a lot more traffic than the Crypt Keeper post if that’s your balance of judgment in what’s becoming.

    Actually, I think its the second time, and my reference didn’t have anything to do with a desire for traffic. In fact, I mention it only because I’m surprised that so many people were thinking the same thing. I didn’t post it for the hits.


  52. Tex-
    So you agree with me then? We agree on something!


  53. Actually, I think its the second time, and my reference didn’t have anything to do with a desire for traffic. In fact, I mention it only because I’m surprised that so many people were thinking the same thing. I didn’t post it for the hits.

    Believe you sent me an email reminding me as such but I’ll take your word for it. Twice now…

    A link to what. A superimposed picture? No, I’m not about to go search for something that awful. I’m simply stating what I’ve read. I thought that your talent – side by side pictures. I was almost ashamed to make the loaded comparison but if you’re curious you can always Google Zira’s picture.

    I was making the point that what may at first appear funny, many times is not and could come back to bite you. I’ve often marvelled at the thinness of the leftist skin – you excluded with your thick hide.

    I add that as a second redeeming quality you own.


  54. Mike,

    Tex-So you agree with me then? We agree on something!

    I usually pride myself on figuring things out. However, concerning you Mike, your posts are so obtuse, I never know whether to stand and clap or cuss you. I can’t figure out if you the lunatic genius or the slantheaded dolt.

    Do we agree?


  55. Chen,

    Haven’t we covered the Wright thing before Tex? Do we know how often the Obamas attended TUCC? Do we know that the handful of 3 second clips is representative of the whole 20 years?

    No, we don’t.

    You assume the worst; I give him the benefit of the doubt.

    There, I was truthful.

    I give up trying to reason with you. You’re a complete blockhead.

    Some of these are 60 minute sermons, not three second clips. There’s not but a few of these. There’s not but a few of these. We’ve got books, and worded sermons, and film clips. Do you have any idea of what black liberation theology is and its history? It’s completely racist, under the guise of helping its own specifically black, has marxist roots, a systematic re-distribution of wealth (sound familiar?), with the occasional invoking of Jesus to make it saintly, and about as relevant to Salvation as Kwanzaa.

    Here, if you are interested.

    http://www.acton.org/commentary/443_marxist_roots_of_black_liberation_theology.php

    I’m sure you can find some Jeremiah Wright link protesting the man’s research, as if somehow that makes everything okay with Obama’s mindset and his pastor. It’s the Chamber way.

    One question for the simple minded. If this Rev. Wright is just misunderstood, why would a Dimocratic Obama shill like Oprah Winfrey attend a few times, be aghast and leave?

    Like I said, your man won. You ought to at least learn to be intellectually honest about something.


  56. I have a tattoo that says “lunatic genius” so I guess it’s the former.


  57. You have a tattoo? Lunatic genius? I was going to tell you okay, you’re just above my pay grade.

    But then the thought occurred to me, you desperately need to watch Chenzhen’s SNL Tattoo remover. At least Chen and I have the same warped sense of humor because I thought this pretty funny too if you haven’t seen it.

    He used to have it posted somewhere here but I can’t find it.

    So use this one:

    http://www.guzer.com/videos/snl_tattoo_removal.php

    Who knows what lunatic genius might look like in 40 years?


  58. I voted. We did it!


  59. No, that was a dumb joke. I don’t have a tattoo. Although, that SNL skit is pretty funny.


  60. Tex-

    Like I said, your man won. You ought to at least learn to be intellectually honest about something

    Exactly. He won, which means that the majority of America gave him the benefit of the doubt and/or didn’t care (I imagine the # of people competely unaware of Wright would be small, but I could be wrong).

    Intellectually honest enough?


  61. So I assume, Tex, that you and I are in agreement over that nature of black nationalism. At least there are some clear-sighted people around here.


  62. @Tex I earlier offered this

    I’d say thinking real hard and deciding how deep you want to go on that is the order of the day.

    I personally don’t dig or get black separatist theology. I intellectually understand black nationalism and see similarities of the latter at different levels with each and every ethnic group in America. So with that said and full knowledge that people like Robertson, Hagee and others are out there too I think those that want to be proved right down the road should walk slow and sure down that road.


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