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Flame Warrior Profile: Killgore Trout

April 16, 2007

One of the reasons why I chose Mike Reed’s “Flame Warriors” as a theme for my blog was my fascination with this new medium that allows us humans to communicate in an instantaneous yet anonymous manner.   I think Reed’s observations were mostly based on discussions in message boards, but I’ve noticed that many of the tactics that he illustrated and described so eloquently on his site have even greater meaning when it comes to blogs, as the battleground (if you will) can encompass a multitude of sites. And I gotta say, it’s a jungle out there (here?).  For perfect example of how blogging can take the flame warrior idea to a whole new level, look no further than a netizen who goes by the handle …Killgore Trout*. 

Note- Since I am unable to determine with any certainty if Killgore is male or female, the following portion will contain many usages of “KT”, “the handle” and “the netizen”.  I have some sort of issue with referring to another human as “it”.  Call me old-fashioned. All I can figure is that he or she is probably a sci-fi buff.…so…. probably he.

Anyone who reads LGF with any frequency should recognize the handle, since KT has over 10,000 comment posts there, and is also credited quite often for submitting links to stories that make it to LGF’s main page.  In fact, it’s quite possible that Killgore contributes more to LGF than any other single lizard, now that I think about it. And if Killgore has a particular speciality, it would be reading and reporting back on diaries that appear on the Daily Kos. Here’s some diaries that got Killgore’s attention: 

Keep in mind, these were only the Kos diaries that made the front page of LGF.   Killgore has submitted countless more in the comment section.  In other words, I think it’s safe to say that Killgore reads more Kos diaries than I do. And on at least a couple of occasions during the last year, KT decided to do some posting on Kos as well, as one of the Kossacks pointed out: Trollbusters

Remember this diary: Imagine a world without Israel? So do I. So does LGF. I don’t think I’ve commented in any of the brazillion threads on the Lebanon/Israel conflict because I’m a pacifist, and my solution would be too simplistic and naive for most. However, this moby did comment:

**This diary was written by a moby. Check it’s comment history. It even labeled it a troll diary. Killgore Trout7/13/2006 01:06PM PDT [KT retracted this theory here upon further examination of the original diarist’s posts -CZ]
**[Re:]#43 J.D.: It’s a way to make the koskidz look worse than they actually are. It’s effective though, this diary has been making the rounds all day. There are plenty of real reasons to goof on the Koskidz, we don’t need trumped up ones. Killgore Trout 7/13/2006 01:13PM PDT
**[Re:]#89 Lynn B.: Be forewarned some of the comments are from moby’s as well. I know bvecause[sic] I wrote some of them yesterday. Killgore Trout 7/13/2006 01:22PM PDT
**So has kos been successfully Moby’d? Ward Cleaver 7/13/2006 01:26PM PDT

To post at one site in an attempt to elicit comments that can then be ridiculed at a distance by members of another is a tactic of subversion that I don’t believe flame warrior enthusiasts have seen before.  Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m not quite sure if “moby” is the best term either.  From the LGF FAQ:

Q. What’s a “moby?”
A. Someone who is following the advice of techno-pop star Moby to plant items that are likely to alienate Bush supporters.  More: Punk the prez?

It’s not quite the same thing.  This wasn’t a case of posting stories about Bush’s border control policy in an effort to pick away at a few Bush voters. This is a new Flame Warrior variant (something unique to the blogs).  “Recon”, maybe?  On the other hand, as far as Kos is concerned, maybe Killgore is just a Lurker who occasionally plays Impostor:

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It should also be mentioned that Killgore also has 2 LGF ‘sockpuppets’:

*Just for the record, I like Killgore.  I may not agree with everything he posts, but I believe there is a level of respect present there that can exist for fellow warrior netizens.  I’m pretty sure it’s mutual.  So, for KT and other visiting LGFer’s, consider this Killgore’s own open thread.

**Correction-  According to KT, this handle wasn’t his doing.  Maybe a secret admirer?

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We Won The ‘War On Terror’ In March ’03

March 15, 2007

I just got done having a discussion with the lizards on LGF.  The topic this evening: Pentagon Transcripts Show Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Confesses to Sept. 11 Attacks

It’s the ‘confesses’ part that is news, I suppose, since the 9/11 Commission gave him the credit for the masterminding of 9/11 some time ago.  It could be debated whether this new development really means anything at all with regards to what happens in Washington. Or, should serve as some sort of closure, on some collective level?  I’m not sure.  Anyway, here’s some what I posted on LGF (out-of-context comments removed):

Well, if you take the statement at face value, it looks like a pretext to end the WoT (as in, the response to 9/11, or the intentions of Congress when drafting the AUMF), and get back to the normal ‘war on terrorism’ that has existed for decades. The way that statement looks, this is THE guy. Or, looked at another way, you could say that the single most major threat that existed out there ended the day we nabbed him, making the whole Iraq war completely superfluous…..

This guy confessed to pretty much everything. I mean, you could almost say “we got him” here. In other words, Bush has been hyping a threat that pretty much dissolved March of 03. The threat is below pre-9/11 levels. How to handle the threat that remains is definately worth debating.

I’ve always viewed this WoT as a political tool more than an actual war. Something where ‘victory’ can be declared at any given time, since there’s no way to prove who’s won or lost. Well, gee whiz. The guy confessed…’Victory!’ then continue on with the cloak and dagger stuff they’ve always done…only a little better this time.

Like many people, I’ve tried to make the distinction between our actual, legitimate counterterrorism efforts and ‘War on Terror’ (the slogan). I can’t help but be reminded of the Bush apologists’ favorite talking point.  You know, the “We’ve gone X years since 9/11 with no attack on the homeland” bit.  Well, could it be because we’ve had the real boogeyman in custody since March of 2003?

There’s also a good post on this over at Hot Air

Related: U.S. War on/of Terror will end in Oct. 2008

Update:  OK, here’s an AP article that quotes ‘experts’ backing me up a bit: Experts: Mohammed arrest slowed al-Qaida

Experts agree the arrest was a major setback for bin Laden’s terror network, and one from which the group has never quite recovered.

Along with the arrests of other top bin Laden lieutenants, such as Abu Zubaydah and 9/11 coordinator Ramzi Binalshibh, Mohammed’s capture forced the group — evicted by a U.S.-led invasion from its sanctuary inside Afghanistan — to evolve.

Many of the world’s recent terror attacks — such as the March 11, 2004 train bombings in Madrid and the July 2005 attacks in London, were carried out by local groups with no proven links to bin Laden’s inner circle. Although undoubtedly inspired by bin Laden’s call for global jihad, al-Qaida no longer could lend the kind of direct support it offered the 9/11 hijackers.

“The role of al-Qaida has changed a lot,” said Talat Masood, a former Pakistani general and security analyst. “It has become devolved and amorphous. It’s a more ideological and inspirational force and does not have a centralized command anymore.”

In other words, just when we had al Qaeda on the ropes, we invade Iraq. The ’cause celebre’.  But, hey, if a Democrat were president, we may get hit again.

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Things Worth Knowing Before You Start A War

March 14, 2007

I was cruising Digg again today and spotted this: What’s the Difference: Shia vs. Sunni

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And I was instantly reminded of this:  Ambassador claims shortly before invasion, Bush didn’t know there were two sects of Islam

Galbraith reports that the three of them spent some time explaining to Bush that there are two different sects in Islam–to which the President allegedly responded, “I thought the Iraqis were Muslims!”

I don’t think we’ll be seeing Bush on Mt. Rushmore anytime soon.

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Curveball Sounds About Right, Actually

March 13, 2007

I’ve expressed my feelings about the whole Curveball- Drumheller- Powell- Whittaker -U.N. story in the past on quite a few sites, but I thought it was interesting to see that ABC had a little more on the mystery man:  Exclusive: Curveball, the Defector Whose Lies Led to War

The Iraqi defector known as Curveball, whose fabricated stories of “mobile biological weapons labs” helped lead the U.S. to war four years ago, is still being protected by the German intelligence service, an ABC News investigation has found.

Intelligence sources, who provided ABCNews.com with the first known photo of the man, say he has been resettled in a small town near the Munich headquarters of the German service, which has continued to honor its original commitment made when he fled Iraq in 1999.

That’s about it for new info on this guy (aside from a fuzzy alleged picture that looks like it’s from the ’70’s).  The rest of the post pretty much covers Tyler Drumheller again.  For my part, I’ll expand on it a bit by posting a link to his PBS interview

 So what was the NIE? What were those, basically just sales documents?

An NIE is a summary of supposedly all the intelligence. I didn’t even know they had drafted the NIE. See, Curveball wasn’t our source; he was a DHS source — Defense HUMINT Service source. So we were not involved with Curveball at all until they came up. They wanted us to vet him.

Who asks you to vet him?

Tenet asked me. He started.

And what does he say?

This is all in the Silberman-Robb report. Late September, he asked me to see the guys who were handling [Curveball]. … In fact, he said to Jim [Pavitt] — Jim said it to me. He said, “Ask him about that defector, the biological weapons defector.” I didn’t know who he was, but I didn’t want to say, “Well, I don’t know who that is.” So I went back, and I asked my executive officers, “Who’s that guy who defected in ’99, and Curveball?”

How did the name Curveball come up?

Curveball is a German term. It had nothing to do with him being —

It’s not a baseball terminology?

No. They use “-ball” a lot for code names.

We did some research on it and found that as early as, I think it was September of 2000, the chief of the German service was warning that they couldn’t confirm what this guy was saying. In the meantime, DIA had put out over 100 intel reports from this reporting. Now, these went to the concerned analysts and people in the community and became part of the war of Iraq, but were forgotten specifically in detail.

As it turns out, the name seems to fit.  More on Curveball from Larry Wilkerson (same PBS program)

Would we have done that with Curveball? Would we have done that with the connection between Al Qaeda and Baghdad? I can’t say, but we never had the opportunity to decide, because we never were presented with those dissents.

As they say, the rest is history.

Others blogging:  The American Street, Political Animal, The Daily Dish, Liberty Street and Think Progress

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Note To Iran: It’s Just A Damn Movie

March 13, 2007

I haven’t even seen this movie yet, but I thought I’d comment on this one because it seems that everyone takes movies a bit too seriously.  Iranians included:  Iran outraged by Hollywood war epic

War epic “300”, a smash hit in the United States for its gory portrayal of the Greco-Persian wars, has drawn the wrath of Iranians for showing their ancestors as bloodthirsty “savages”.

The press, officials and bloggers have united in denouncing the film as another example of “psychological warfare” against Tehran by its American arch enemy at a time of mounting tension over its nuclear programme.

Can’t I go to a movie without having to contemplate what hidden message about someone’s ancestors may be contained within?   I suppose the ironic thing is that your average moviegoer probably wouldn’t have made the Iranian/Persian connection if this ‘outrage’ hadn’t made the news.

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New Feature: Moonbat Watch

March 11, 2007

The search for the elusive ‘moonbat’ continues…..

RSS moonbat watch 

I’ve decided to take advantage of Digg’s cool RSS capabilities. and place a feed that searches for ‘moonbat’ sightings.  I’ve placed as the second to the last RSS feed in the sidebar.  I’m using this powerful tool to track stories that have ‘moonbat’ in the title or description, in the hope that it will lead me to the holy grail.  That is, solve the riddle, find the truth, and answer the eternal question:

What the hell is a moonbat? 

Update:  Wow, this thing realy works!  Today I noticed a netizen that has a particular fetish with all things ‘moonbat’, having submitted a handful of ‘moonbat’ entries to Digg within a few hours of each other: cleanshots. It was a very busy day on Digg for this person.  In fact, ‘moonbat’ was thrown around with such reckless abandon that I think we actually got a little further from finding the true meaning of the term. 

Update:  OK, I’ve located another expert in the field of moonbattery.  The blog Pirate’s Cove has two categories for ‘moonbats’: Raving Moonbats (211), and Beyond Moonbat (78) …can’t get enough of ’em.

Update:  Well, the RSS feed for the digg search for ‘moonbat’ doesn’t seem to work anymore.  I’m not sure why, but I’ve removed it from the sidebar.  I know, it stinks.

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Shadow Wolves To Hunt Bin Laden

March 11, 2007

I found this interesting story on the Digg wire: Native American trackers to hunt bin Laden

WASHINGTON: An elite group of Native American trackers is joining the hunt for terrorists crossing Afghanistan’s borders.

The unit, the Shadow Wolves, was recruited from several tribes, including the Navajo, Sioux, Lakota and Apache. It is being sent to Tajikistan and Uzbekistan to pass on ancestral sign-reading skills to local border units.In recent years, members of the Shadow Wolves have mainly tracked smugglers along the US border with Mexico.

Reading this, I was instantly reminded of my childhood days of playing with and watching….. G.I. Joe:

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Now you know, and “knowing is half the battle”   I wonder if they’ll bring “Billy” along?  One thing is clear; Bin Laden has a new foe, and it is G.I. Joe.  Go Joe!

Seriously though, I’m interested to see if this really works. 

Update:  Now that I think about it, I think the character “Billy” in the movie Predator was a G.I. Joe reference:

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Wouldn’t the Pentagon and others want to keep something like this secret

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More Than A Feeling

March 10, 2007

Brad Delp, the lead singer for the band Boston, was found dead Friday in his home in southern New Hampshire on Friday, March 9.

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Camp Phoenix’s “Rambo”

March 8, 2007

I thought I’d do some checking up on the war that doesn’t seem to get talked about nearly enough in the media, so I did a search for “Afghanistan” on Digg, and an interesting story caught my attention: Afghan ‘Rambo’ stops bombers

This is a normal day for Rambo, an Afghan who has stood guard here for more than four years, pledging his life to the American soldiers that rid his land of the Taliban. But on Jan. 16, Rambo’s gatekeeping made him a bona fide hero.

On that day, Rambo wrenched open the driver’s side door of a moving car and wrestled a suicide bomber into submission before he could detonate his explosives. President Bush lauded him in a nationally televised speech several weeks ago, and before that, slightly exaggerated accounts of his feat circled through cyberspace, pleading for America to offer him citizenship or at least a medal.

I must have missed it when Bush mentioned him, since I’d never heard of this guy before.  Here he is:

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I did some more searching, and found a little more background on Rambo on the Stars & Stripes site from Jan. ’05:  ‘Rambo’ helps keep U.S. base in Afghanistan secure

A person would be hard pressed to find anyone in the camp who doesn’t know or hasn’t heard of Rambo, so named by troops in the 10th Mountain Division.

“He’s definitely a legend on this camp,” Sgt. Michael Sweet said.

While Sweet, an Indiana National Guardsman, is a shift sergeant, it’s abundantly clear that Rambo is the primary gatekeeper.

In June 2003, when U.S. forces first rolled up to the front gate of what was then a Russian-Afghan transport company, Rambo was waiting. He hasn’t left.

Stories of Rambo permeate the base. Some are factual. Others are not.

“This is my hooch,” he says through an interpreter as he opens the door to a small, cramped room immediately off the front gate.

His real name is Jamal Udin, born in Kabul “maybe 41 years ago,” he said, to parents who moved to the capital from northern Afghanistan.

After reading all that, it’s clear to me that Rambo embodies the reason we are in Afghanistan, and reaffirms my belief that we are there for the right reasons.  So, I’ll do what the troops stationed there do, and give Rambo a hearty salute myself.  Best of luck to all of you.

For a soldier’s perspective on ‘Rambo‘ , and other things relating to Camp Phoenix and the daily life of the troops in Afghanistan, check out this excellent blog: Afghanistan Without a Clue (aka: AWAC) 

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See also: Combined Joint Task Force Phoenix

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He went to jail for WHAT?

March 8, 2007

To say this aspect of our law bothers me is an understatement. Oh, I realize you don’t know what it is I’m talking about, now do you?

Gentle reader, I’m talking about a then17-year old boy getting 10 years in prison for receiving oral sex from a then 15-year old girl.

I’m a big fan of Dateline’s To Catch a Predator series. Those men are completely evil, twisted [censored.] If you’re a grown man, and you want to de-virginized a 13 year old, either boy or girl, then yes– you deserve to have your face plasted on primetime tv. I don’t feel sorry for these men. I also don’t believe these sting operations are entrapment. These men actively hang out in chat rooms full of teenagers, then make dates to visit the teens. Quite a few have sexually-charged chats, as well as going so far as to send web cam photos of their genitalia to the teens.

That, by anyone’s definition (if you’re a member of NAMBLA, go away right now.) is a crime.

Let me get back to the case of Genarlow Wilson. As a senior in high school, he had a consentual sexual experience with a sophomore. Big deal, right? We’re talking about two people, who are in the same school, and are within 24 months of age of each other.

Yet, he’s the one who received jail time! For a consentual sexual interaction! In the technical sense of the word, both were still virgins after the act, no one was harmed (raped) and no one ended up as a teenage mom!

Oh sure, I understand the prosecutor offered Wilson a deal. Five years in prison, and Wilson must register as a sex offender.

I can understand why the teen didn’t jump at that deal! A registered sex offender? The kid wouldn’t even be able to get a job working at Goodwill.

Our Constitution makes no designation between children or adults. State laws have done their best to address the situtions and plights of those under the “legal” age of whatever. What we’ve done, is failed our children miserably. Some commit murder, and get put on trial as an adult. Others commit murder, and end up in a family court. Others go to prison, and other go to juvy detention. It makes absolutely no sense to me, that in this day and age of enlightment, we are going to send a teen to jail for 10 years, for having consentual sex with another teen in his age/developmental group.

It’s about time legistlation is enacted, which recognizes the mindset and developmental abilities of children. There should be a set of laws for children who commit crimes, as well as children who rape.

And, the law should find a way to recognize consentual sex between teenagers, including an age range of those involved with whom. In Wilson’s case, we’re not talking about a 17-year old boy having oral sex with a 13-year old girl. That’s certainly a marked developmental difference. We’re not even talking about a 19-year old boy having oral sex with a 15-year old girl.

What say you?

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Andrew Sullivan On The Libby Verdict

March 6, 2007

I was going to post my thoughts the Libby verdict, but I saw this post by Andrew Sullivan and decided to give him credit:

Something is rotten in the heart of Washington; and it lies in the vice-president’s office. The salience of this case is obvious. What it is really about – what it has always been about – is whether this administration deliberately misled the American people about WMD intelligence before the war. The risks Cheney took to attack Wilson, the insane over-reaction that otherwise very smart men in this administration engaged in to rebut a relatively trivial issue: all this strongly implies the fact they were terrified that the full details of their pre-war WMD knowledge would come out. Fitzgerald could smell this. He was right to pursue it, and to prove that a brilliant, intelligent, sane man like Libby would risk jail to protect his bosses. What was he really trying to hide? We now need a Congressional investigation to find out more, to subpoena Cheney and, if he won’t cooperate, consider impeaching him.

It was the “insane over-reaction” to what was merely an op-ed in a newspaper that presents the occam’s razor moment (for me anyway). I am a little disappointed that Sullivan left out the fact that there were a lot of people who could “smell it”, but stood idly by while this administration dealt us nothing but spin for 4 years.  As far as anyone going after Cheney goes, well, I’m not holding my breath.  There seems to have been a notably high level of timidity  in Washington  towards Cheney.   I suppose things like outing a CIA agent ( not to mention talk of a ‘dunk in the water’ ) might have that effect.  I shudder to think of what he’s liable to do when he’s really in a corner. 

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Update: For more on Dick Cheney’s battle for control of intelligence from 9/11 to the Iraq invasion, along with lots of background on Cheney’s ‘network’, check out PBS’s FRONTLINE doc The Dark Side :

Libby has worked closely with Cheney for almost 20 years, starting when he was an under secretary at the Pentagon when Cheney was secretary of defense. As Cheney’s chief of staff during the run-up to war with Iraq, Libby helped push the vice president’s agenda at the CIA, the State Department and in the press. CIA officials claim Libby accompanied Cheney on many trips to CIA headquarters, where the pair questioned analysts about Iraq’s weapons capabilities.

In other words, he’s just the type of guy who would take the fall to protect the boss. 
 

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Gen. Wesley Clark: Decison to Attack Iraq Made 9/20/01

March 5, 2007

Just add this to the list of evidence that Bush lied when he said “hopefully no military action“,  here’s an  interview with Wesley Clark (with audio):

GEN. WESLEY CLARK: Well, in a way. But, you know, history doesn’t repeat itself exactly twice. What I did warn about when I testified in front of Congress in 2002, I said if you want to worry about a state, it shouldn’t be Iraq, it should be Iran. But this government, our administration, wanted to worry about Iraq, not Iran.

I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, “Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, “We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq.” This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” He said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.” So I said, “Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?” He said, “No, no.” He says, “There’s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.” He said, “I guess it’s like we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we’ve got a good military and we can take down governments.” And he said, “I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.”

It gets better (or worse), as Clark details how the admin. planned on taking out half of the Middle East. 


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What Would Indiana Jones Think?

March 5, 2007

From The Guardian: Iran’s rich architecture and rare treasures threatened by possible US strikes 

Other nuclear installations lie close to Shiraz, dubbed “the city of roses and nightingales”, famous for the tombs of medieval poets; Persepolis, the great palace of King Darius, whose ruins are still magnificent; and the 6th century BC tomb of Cyrus the Great, the Persian ruler who was said to have been buried in a coffin of gold.

Four years ago Dr Curtis was warning that war in Iraq would be a disaster for some of the oldest and most important sites in the world. He has since seen his worst fears confirmed: the site of ancient Babylon became an American military base; thousands of objects are missing from the national museum at Baghdad; and looted artefacts have been illicitly excavated and smuggled out of the country.

Curious, I thought I’d check it out, so here’s  the tomb of Cyrus the Great:

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Gold…in there?    Hhmmm.   What would  Indiana Jones think?

Bomb that tomb, and I'll bullwhip your ass

 

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For The Love Of… Just Ignore Ann Coulter

March 2, 2007

Note to righty bloggers reading this: 

I hereby declare that I will not use Ann Coulter’s remarks (past, present, and future) against conservatives, so long as you declare that Ann Coulter is effectively banished from intelligent political discourse.  It’s not that hard to do, really.  It’s not like she’s running for president or anything.  Before you know it, her appearances on Fox and silly guest appearances at major events like CPAC will be a thing of the past. 

Let’s let Ann ride off into the sunset, shall we? 

BTW- Who’d miss her?

Update: Oh, my goodness.  Coulter’s comments made the NY Times: G.O.P. Candidates Criticize Slur by Conservative Author …Ok, that’s 3 presidential hopefuls. 

And oh my goodness…… gracious, Right Wing Nut House makes basically the same suggestion: COULTER FATIGUE

I urge everyone – right and left – to take the following actions:

1. Never write another blog post about Ann Coulter no matter how outrageous, cruel, or bigoted her language…..

Sounds good to me. Heck, I hesitated to write this one, but I think it was needed to convey my desire to bring right and left together on this.  She is a menace. I’m with ya Rick (there are 5 more actions on Rick’s list)

Update:  Bryan at Hot Air hits the target:  The problem with Ann

And, what’s the big headline coming out of CPAC? Is it that Josh Sparling won a much-deserved award? Is it that conservatives remain committed to the war for freedom against terrorism? Is it that this post-blowout CPAC was the largest CPAC ever? Was it that I got to be on a teevee show?

No. The headline coming out of CPAC is that Ann Coulter said an awful thing. Which is what she wants, since it’ll keep her profile up and help her sell books. She doesn’t care that conservative heroes and leaders and thousands of other less known conservatives who were present will end up getting tarnished by her remarks. She doesn’t care that she’s putting the CPAC organizers in a bind, since she’s their biggest draw but also their biggest liability. She probably doesn’t care that she’s John Edwards’ spokesmodel. She probably likes the attention. It’s all about Ann. And that’s the problem.

Yep.  She does things like this for her own reasons.  If I were a conservative, I’d be outraged by the fact that she used CPAC for this kind of self promotion, and left the rest of you to clean up the mess.   Let’s all just ignore her (no calls for apologies, no booking her on a show to explain her comments, etc.), and this can be my last post on this subject.

And just for the record, I’ve never really thought of Coulter as a serious conservative, so I’ve rarely used her outrageousness against other conservatives.  I do worry, however, that there are too many who do (take her seriously).  Hopefully, after this, that number will be greatly reduced.

Update: Thanks to Brian Montopoli at CBS for linking to this post.  Spread the word!

Update:  It’s catching on!  Today I salute righty bloggers who reprinted this: An Open Letter to CPAC Sponsors and Organizers Regarding Ann Coulter

Update 10/11:  I’m just going to keep pinging blogs with this post.  So… there.