General Lieberman Speaks (Followed By General ChenZhen)

June 12, 2007
First, from the other day:

WASHINGTON (AP) – Sen. Joseph Lieberman said Sunday the United States should consider a military strike against Iran because of Tehran’s involvement in Iraq.

“I think we’ve got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq,” Lieberman said. “And to me, that would include a strike over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers.”

My initial response was this (from another blog):

ChenZhen said…
    “I want to make clear I’m not talking about a massive ground invasion of Iran,” Lieberman said.

That’s the problem. Unless we’re prepared for full-scale war, I think any attack inside Iran’s borders is just plain foolish. For one, said attack probably won’t halt Iran’s involvement. In all liklihood, the attempt would backfire, even if we did destroy some training camp somewhere. They’d probably just come back at us harder, and the situation would escalate.

Nevermind the fact that this would be exactly what al Qaeda in Iraq wants us to do.

It’s a nice fix Bush has gotten us into, eh?


DesertSage said…
Oh boy…General ChenZhen is giving us military advice.
June 10, 2007 5:45 PM

I wonder if I should put some stars in my sidebar?

Sure enough, a real general weighs in:

Senator Lieberman’s saber rattling does nothing to help dissuade Iran from aiding Shia militias in Iraq, or trying to obtain nuclear capabilities. In fact, it’s highly irresponsible and counter-productive, and I urge him to stop.


Update:  Excellent and related read from Ezra Klein: Let’s Get Serious  —  What do liberal hawks actually want to do regarding Iran?



  1. I kinda like this DesertSage guy…you should listen to him Chen…

  2. Wow, such insight, ChenZhen. Doing nothing with Iran for the past 29 years has been a really productive strategy, dontcha think? Because that’s exactly what we’ve done. So, let’s stay the course, you say? Until when, exactly; when Tel Aviv is a smoking, radioactive crater? Or show them we mean business, NOW?

  3. I’d rather listen to General Chen than General LIEberman or any of the other knuckleheads in power.

  4. Good post, Chen- you jihadi’s best friend, you 😉

    Personally, I think an air strike on those facillities is all we need to do. Let the Iranian people deal with their leadership.

  5. Well Sharm I think we’re talking about 2 different problems here. On the one hand you have what Lieberman is talking about (Iran supplying the insurgency). I think there has to be better tactics for dealing with that than just dropping a bomb on something and thinking that it will stop. It’s also a situation that only exists because we invaded Iraq. I think that’s important to point out. In fact, some of those pre-war reports I posted a couple of threads down actually predicted Iran’s meddling. There has been a lot of talk about how to deal with that kind of smuggling that doesn’t involve hitting Iran directly. I guess it’s one of those things that having more troops might have solved because we could have more resources dedicated to the borders there.

    The other situation is the Iranian nuke thing. That’s something independent of the invasion, and is probably of more direct concern to Israel than to us.

    BTW- Are the insurgents jihadis? I haven’t figured that one out. The situation over there is pretty confusing with all those militias, tribes and insurgent groups.

  6. You know I’d love to discuss this more, but it will have to wait. I will get back to you.

  7. […] September 17th, 2007 I like having fun with this new nickname that fellow LGFer DesertSage gave me, and tonight I have another opportunity to pat myself on the back for another convergence of […]

  8. LOL

    #346 Killian Bundy 1/12/08 7:15:33 pm

    Going the way of General Chen.

    /just sayin’

    I wonder if that was intended as a pejorative?


  9. The amusing moment

    By the way, what do you think about this icons site?

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